15:14 - Biblical Counseling Coalition

Jonathan Holmes CCEF

In today’s episode of 15:14, Kevin Carson, Executive Director of the Biblical Counseling Coalition, is joined by Jonathan Holmes, the new Executive Director of the Christian Counseling and Educational Foundation (CCEF). Jonathan brings years of experience serving in pastoral ministry, counseling ministry, and organizational leadership through Parkside Church and Fieldstone Counseling, along with a deep commitment to strengthening the church’s ministry of personal care.

In this conversation, Kevin and Jonathan reflect on the historic role CCEF has played within the biblical counseling movement and discuss Jonathan’s vision for the next season of ministry at CCEF. Jonathan shares how CCEF’s mission to “restore Christ to counseling and counseling to the local church” continues to shape the organization’s priorities, particularly the desire to equip ordinary believers in churches for wise, personal ministry. Together, they discuss the importance of connecting the riches of Scripture to the troubles of everyday life and helping churches cultivate meaningful, relational care.

Kevin and Jonathan also explore the balance between theological depth and relational warmth in counseling ministry. Jonathan emphasizes that biblical counseling is not merely the transfer of information or expertise, but a ministry of presence, compassion, wisdom, and faithful conversation rooted in God’s Word. Drawing from the influence of the late David Powlison and longtime CCEF faculty such as Ed Welch, the conversation highlights the importance of patient, church-centered ministry that walks with people through suffering and sanctification over time.

Additionally, they discuss the opportunities and challenges facing biblical counseling organizations today, the need for accessible training for pastors and church members, and the growing global impact of biblical counseling ministry. Jonathan shares his hope that CCEF will continue serving as a trusted voice that mines the treasures of Scripture for the struggles of life while strengthening the local church’s role in soul care.

Rooted in a shared love for the local church and confidence in the sufficiency of Scripture, this episode encourages pastors, counselors, and church members alike to pursue faithful, compassionate ministry that brings the hope of Christ into the realities of everyday life.

You can learn more about CCEF at https://www.ccef.org.

 

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Nathanael Logan, Chaplain US Army - Part 2

In today’s episode of 15:14, Kevin Carson, Executive Director of the Biblical Counseling Coalition, is joined by Nathanael Logan, a US Army Chaplain and certified counselor, for part two of their conversation. Captain Nathanael Logan serves as a Chaplain in the U.S. Army, with over two decades of service across active and reserve components, including a deployment to Afghanistan. He has also served as a Drill Sergeant and a pastor. He holds a Master of Arts in Biblical Counseling and a Master of Arts in Biblical Studies from Baptist Bible Theological Seminary and is a certified biblical counselor with the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors. He serves on the advisory board for Fallen Soldiers Ministries and is committed to the faithful application of Scripture for the care of souls and the glory of God.

In part two, they continue their conversation by focusing on the counseling side of military chaplaincy. Chaplain Logan opens a window into what happens when soldiers step into his office carrying burdens of suffering, relational conflict, fear, and confusion. He explains how he listens carefully, looks for spiritual indicators, and seeks to bring the wisdom of Scripture to bear in moments that often feel urgent and complex. The conversation also explores why military counseling often begins as triage, how chaplains differ from mental health professionals, and what young people should know if they are considering chaplaincy as a calling.

You can reach Chaplain Logan at this email address: DrillChappylo34@gmail.com

 

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Nathanael Logan, Chaplain US Army - Part 1

In today’s episode of 15:14, Kevin Carson, Executive Director of the Biblical Counseling Coalition, is joined by Nathanael Logan, a US Army Chaplain and certified counselor. Captain Nathanael Logan serves as a Chaplain in the U.S. Army, with over two decades of service across active and reserve components, including a deployment to Afghanistan. He has also served as a Drill Sergeant and a pastor. He holds a Master of Arts in Biblical Counseling and a Master of Arts in Biblical Studies from Baptist Bible Theological Seminary. He is a certified biblical counselor with the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors. He serves on the advisory board for Fallen Soldiers Ministries and is committed to the faithful application of Scripture for the care of souls and the glory of God.

In this first conversation, Chaplain Logan explains how the Lord led him into military ministry. He shares his journey from early struggles in college, to military service after the September 11 attacks and ultimately to discovering that the military itself had become a unique mission field. Together, they discuss what Army chaplains do day-to-day, why their presence among soldiers matters, and how biblical counseling serves men and women facing pressures that many civilians never experience. Chaplain Logan also explains how he ministers faithfully in a religiously diverse environment while remaining clear and consistent in his commitment to Christ.

You can reach Chaplain Logan at this email address: DrillChappylo34@gmail.com

 

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Dave Deuel BCC Senior Research Fellow

Dave Deuel | Entrusting the Treasure: Preventing Drift Through Faithful Word Ministry

In today’s episode of 15:14, Kevin Carson, Executive Director of the Biblical Counseling Coalition, is joined by Dave Deuel, Senior Research Fellow with the BCC. Dave brings decades of experience in church planting, theological education, international missions, and research, with a longstanding focus on equipping pastors and strengthening the church through faithful handling of God’s Word.

In this conversation, Kevin and Dave discuss 2 Timothy 2:2 and 1 Timothy 4:16, exploring the responsibility of entrusting the truth of the gospel to the next generation while maintaining personal faithfulness in both life and doctrine. Dave highlights how this pattern of generational discipleship serves as a safeguard against theological drift, emphasizing the importance of carefully transmitting the “treasure” of Scripture to faithful individuals who will continue the work.

They also address the critical connection between knowing and living the truth, warning against the danger of unapplied theology. Drawing from ministry and counseling experience, Kevin and Dave underscore the necessity of grounding every aspect of counseling in Scripture, resisting the pull to rely primarily on personal insight, experience, or secondary resources.

Rooted in the call to “watch your life and doctrine closely” (1 Tim. 4:16) and to entrust the truth to faithful people (2 Tim. 2:2), this conversation encourages pastors and counselors to remain students of God’s Word, to apply it personally, and to faithfully pass it on as a precious and life-giving treasure.

 

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Lamar Eifert | Valley Forge Biblical Counseling Ministry

In today’s episode of 15:14, Kevin Carson, Executive Director of the Biblical Counseling Coalition, is joined by Lamar Eifert, the Assistant Pastor of Valley Forge Baptist and Director of Valley Forge Biblical Counseling Center. Lamar brings decades of ministry experience in both his local church and in biblical counseling, and his church hosts an annual “Competent to Counsel” conference. He is certified with the Association of Certified Biblical Counseling. 

In this conversation, Kevin and Lamar discuss biblical counseling, heart-level change, the church’s responsibility to care for the hurting with God’s Word, and the upcoming counseling conference. Lamar shares his journey from a secular career into pastoral ministry and biblical counseling, highlighting the sufficiency of Scripture to address the deepest struggles of the human heart. Lamar also emphasizes the need for trained biblical counselors in the Northeast as well as the vision behind the annual “Competent to Counsel” conference.

Rooted in 2 Corinthians 5:14-15, this conversation emphasizes that biblical counseling is not driven by technique alone, but by love for Christ and faith in the transforming power of His Word.

Competent to Counsel Conference
Hosted by the Valley Forge Biblical Counseling Center
Theme: For the Love of Christ Constrains Us (2 Corinthians 5:14-15)

 Key speakers include:

• Dr. George Crabb
• Dr. Charlie Hodges
• Dr. Kevin Carsoon
• Dr. Ben Marshall
• Melissa Baker
• Scott Wendal

Learn more or register at: vfbcc.org/conference

 

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Jeff Christianson

In today’s episode of 15:14, Kevin Carson, Executive Director of the Biblical Counseling Coalition, is joined by Jeff Christianson - pastor, leader, and Executive Director of the International Association of Biblical Counselors, also known as IABC, and a valued member of the BCC Council Board. Jeff brings decades of ministry experience, including pastoral leadership, radio broadcasting, counselor training, university professorship, and organizational leadership within the biblical counseling movement.

In this conversation, we’ll hear about Jeff’s journey into biblical counseling, how the Lord used key influences and relationships to shape his path, and the mission and distinctives behind IABC’s training and certification work. We’ll also hear about cooperation and unity in biblical counseling, the importance of Scripture’s sufficiency in soul care, and how churches can wisely develop counseling ministries in today’s ministry landscape.

Whether you’re a pastor, counselor, or church leader, this conversation will encourage you and give you helpful perspective on the ongoing work of biblical counseling in the local church and beyond.

You can reach Jeff at JeffChristianson@gmail.com.

You can reach the International Association of Biblical Counselors (IABC) at www.iabc.net.

 

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Sacha Mendes

In this episode of 15:14, Kevin Carson sits down with Sacha Mendes at the 2025 Biblical Counseling Coalition Global Summit. Together, they reflect on the message Sacha preached at the Summit and discuss its impact on their thinking, leadership, and ministry. The conversation is thoughtful and grounded, focusing on how biblical truth shapes the way counselors and leaders listen, respond, and serve others. This episode offers encouragement and insight for anyone involved in biblical counseling, pastoral ministry, or leadership within the local church.

Alexandre “Sacha” Mendes serves as one of the pastors at Maranatha Baptist Church in São José dos Campos, Brazil. He is the Director for Vision and Expansion for the Brazilian Association of Biblical Counselors and serves on the board of directors for the Biblical Counseling Coalition. Sacha holds a degree in Economics from the University of São Paulo. He has received theological training from Word of Life Bible Seminary in Brazil, earned a Master’s degree in Biblical Counseling from The Master’s University, a Master of Divinity from Faith Bible Seminary, and a Doctor of Ministry in Expository Preaching from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. He and his wife, Ana, have three children: Pedro, Tito, and Marina.

 

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Dr. Howard Eyrich (Part 2)

Dr Howard Eyrich | A Conversation with Dr. Howard Eyrich (Part 2): Biblical Counseling Forward: Wisdom, Unity, and the Work Ahead 

This episode of 15:14 is Part 2 of a two-part conversation. Kevin Carson and Dr. Howard Eyrich turn from history to the future of biblical counseling.

Recorded at the Biblical Counseling Coalition Global Summit in December 2025, during the transition between executive directors, this episode focuses on the unique role of the Biblical Counseling Coalition as a connector, not a competitor, within the broader biblical counseling movement.

Dr. Eyrich reflects on decades of ministry across denominations, cultures, and continents, offering counsel on leadership, humility, theological faithfulness, and relational unity. He also shares wisdom for pastors, counselors, and leaders navigating cultural pressure, theological drift, and the temptation toward isolation in ministry.

This episode is both a charge and an encouragement for the next generation of biblical counselors.

If you missed Part 1 of this conversation (A Historical Reflection on the Biblical Counseling Movement), you can listen to it here.

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Dr. Howard Eyrich (Part 1)

A Conversation with Dr. Howard Eyrich (Part 1): A Historical Reflection on the Biblical Counseling Movement

In this episode of the 15:14 Podcast, Kevin Carson sits down with Dr. Howard Eyrich, who is one of the earliest and most influential leaders in the biblical counseling movement, for a wide-ranging historical reflection.

Recorded at the Biblical Counseling Coalition Global Summit in December 2025, during a season of transition between executive directors, this conversation captures both the roots and the heart of biblical counseling. Dr. Eyrich shares his personal journey into biblical counseling, his formative years training under Jay Adams at CCEF, and the theological convictions that shaped the movement in its earliest days.

This episode offers listeners a rare firsthand account of how biblical counseling developed, the challenges it faced, and the faithful leaders God used to establish it in churches, seminaries, and counseling ministries around the world.

 

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David Peterson | 133 Networking Groups

In this episode of 15:14, Kevin Carson, Executive Director of the Biblical Counseling Coalition, is joined by David Peterson, BCC team member and director of the 133 Networking Groups. David reintroduces this vital ministry, shares stories of how God is using these groups, and explains how listeners can join an existing group or even begin a 133 group in their own region.

One of the great joys of the Biblical Counseling Coalition is bringing together biblical counselors from a wide variety of backgrounds to cultivate gospel-centered fellowship, encouragement, and collaboration. In this episode of 15:14, we highlight one ministry that does this in a unique and powerful way -  the 133 Networking Groups.

This conversation invites counselors into deeper fellowship, reminds us that ministry is not meant to be done alone, and encourages participation in a growing network committed to Christ-centered, Scripture-saturated care.

The BCC currently supports 133 Networking Groups around the world, along with two virtual groups. These groups provide meaningful spaces for counselors to encourage one another, share resources, pray together, and grow stronger in their ministry.

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